Calllaris Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Originally published in independent.co.uk *This piece contains spoilers for Game of Thrones Season Seven, Episode Two* As it so often does, Sunday night’s Game of Thrones left me screaming at my television screen. Now in its seventh season, showrunners David Benioff and D B Weiss probably assume we’re used to the unpredictable horrors they routinely inflict on the denizens of Westeros. But Sunday night was different, and has me wondering whether I can stomach watching this show again. As they sailed for Dorne at Queen Daenerys’ behest, Yara Greyjoy and Ellaria Sand – two of the handful of LGBT characters the show has given us – begin flirting. It looks like the two are about to hook up when Euron Greyjoy (Yara’s brutal uncle and rival for the throne of the Iron Isles) attacks their fleet. Euron manages to kill most of their sailors and get a knife to Yara’s throat, but the episode leaves Yara’s and Ellaria’s fates unknown. They must survive. Game of Thrones is a brilliant show that has me and millions of other viewers on the edge of our seats week after week, but it has a horrible record of writing same-sex couples. The only other real same-sex couple was brought down way back in season two, when Renly Baratheon was killed by a shadow demon birthed from the womb of Melisandre. The symbolism of a vagina demon killing a gay man told gay audiences everything we needed to know – homosexuality leads heterosexual retribution. This became even more obvious when, at the end of last season, Renly’s partner Loras was arrested for “buggery” and put on trial by a far-right religious cult which demanded heterosexuality or death. In the end, that cult was blown to smithereens by Queen Cersei, but it was of little consolation as Loras was killed along with them. My problem isn’t so much that same-sex loving characters don’t get a happy ending on Game of Thrones. No one really does. But same-sex love is treated as a plot device on this show. None of the lesbian, gay, or bisexual characters we encounter are main characters. Instead, they are background players who, for the most part, serve to further the storylines of the main – and straight – characters. When same-sex love is shown, it is often portrayed as something decadent or weak – such as when Oberon’s bisexuality was considered as a Dornish eccentricity rather than a valid sexuality. He was shown to be a promiscuous dandy, but we didn’t see him form any meaningful relationships with men. His relationship with Ellaria was fleshed out, though. Of course, that was before he had his head smashed in. Yet another LGB character that meets a grizzly fate. This was a common trope in 20th century literature and television, where homosexuality was seen to lead to tragic ending. So taboo was showing same-sex love in a positive light that E.M. Forster held off on publishingMaurice until he was dead, afraid editors and the public wouldn’t accept it. But we don’t live in the 20th century, and gay and bisexual characters – and audiences – deserve better. Game of Thrones loves playing with gay and bisexual trauma as a plot device, but it doesn’t ever seem willing to actually let us be fully formed people with our own agencies and in charge of our own destinies. When two characters finally do find a little joy – such as Yara and Ellaria sharing a kiss – they are immediately attacked or killed. We never get to see what might have been. Which is why I’m rooting for Ellaria and Yara to survive. I don’t know what’s going to happen to them, but I hope it ends with them ruling Dorne and the Iron Isles as coregents. I’ll settle for them actually becoming fully formed, dynamic characters who serve as more than a plot device in Daenerys’ quest for the Iron Throne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrmd Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 GOT not only lacks LGBT characters, but also characters of colour...sadly we can't always get what we want when it comes to television. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators FlyJ Posted August 19, 2017 Administrators Share Posted August 19, 2017 I just started watching GOT, and I love it already. Favorite characters - imp and Arya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nmacie Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Lucky you, some people started out having Ned Stark as a favorite.. @FlyJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators FlyJ Posted August 19, 2017 Administrators Share Posted August 19, 2017 I know @Nmassie.I like Ned Stark too; I was sad when he died 😢. I still don't understand why they killed his character 😭😭. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nmacie Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 That's GOT for you. I advise you to stick with Arya and the Imp, don't have anymore favorites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators FlyJ Posted August 19, 2017 Administrators Share Posted August 19, 2017 Lol. So far so good. Little finger though is something else. Are you a dedicated fan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VINA Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Maddest series out there. You know nothing Jon Snow. I started out with Ned, killed. Then khal Drogo, killed. Lady stark I loved, killed. I pretty much stopped having feelings for my favourites, afraid for the future, scared that if I love too much, they will die. So I courted Jon Snow wearily and I couldn't help it. Killed also. No spoilers for Flyj. Lemme be kwayet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrmd Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 8 hours ago, Nmassie said: I advise you to stick with Arya and the Imp, don't have anymore favorites. you broke my heart what about Jon Snow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrmd Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 welcome aboard @FlyJ what took you so long to watch this lol Right now Cersei Lannister, Daenerys Targaryen, Jon Snow and Arya stark, are my favourites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators FlyJ Posted August 19, 2017 Administrators Share Posted August 19, 2017 12 minutes ago, vina said: Maddest series out there. You know nothing Jon Snow. I started out with Ned, killed. Then khal Drogo, killed. Lady stark I loved, killed. I pretty much stopped having feelings for my favourites, afraid for the future, scared that if I love too much, they will die. So I courted Jon Snow wearily and I couldn't help it. Killed also. No spoilers for Flyj. Lemme be kwayet. I liked those people too. I was pained when Khal Drogo died. I hear Jon Snow is still alive ☺. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators FlyJ Posted August 19, 2017 Administrators Share Posted August 19, 2017 11 minutes ago, Chrmd said: welcome aboard @FlyJ what took you so long to watch this lol @ChrmdLol. I didn't care for GOT for the longest time. My friends kept trying to convince me, here I am now 😆. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VINA Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 *** minutes ago, FlyJ said: I liked those people too. I was pained when Khal Drogo died. I hear Jon Snow is still alive ☺. If Jon had died, I Don't Know what I would have done. Jon is Hale and hearty, won a war sef. I wanna start reading the books. I hear it's better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VINA Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 12 minutes ago, FlyJ said: I liked those people too. I was pained when Khal Drogo died. I hear Jon Snow is still alive ☺. You know Nothing Jon Snow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators FlyJ Posted August 19, 2017 Administrators Share Posted August 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, vina said: If Jon had died, I Don't Know what I would have done. Jon is Hale and hearty, won a war sef. I wanna start reading the books. I hear it's better. Na wa o! They just cleared half of the Stark family. I should get the books as I also heard the book is super. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VINA Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, FlyJ said: Na wa o! They just cleared half of the Stark family. I should get the books as I also heard the book is super. What Season Are u Seeing now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators FlyJ Posted August 19, 2017 Administrators Share Posted August 19, 2017 Almost done season 2 😓. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VINA Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 59 minutes ago, FlyJ said: Almost done season 2 😓. Mehn. The Lord is your Muscle. Lots more to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nmacie Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 The books are definitely better.. A lot of things are more explanatory in it and you get to see each character from their point of view which helps understand them better. I'm dedicated fan😀 @FlyJ At this point, I can say I enjoy watching all GOT characters except maybe Euron Greyjoy. That guy irks me. 😡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Majesty Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Lol....mehn I tot I was d only one...Euron Greyjoy is such an annoying littleshit😡...wonder y hez not dead. Am a huge of Got...I am currently on s7...I download fresh episodes every monday. But HBO was recently hacked, so some episodes were leaked..really sad but I got to watch some episodes before it was released ....so..😛 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators FlyJ Posted August 21, 2017 Administrators Share Posted August 21, 2017 I can’t stand Euron too, so sad he betrayed the Starks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nmacie Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 I think you mean Theon Greyjoy, you can't have seen Euron yet if you're still watching season 2. @FlyJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators FlyJ Posted August 23, 2017 Administrators Share Posted August 23, 2017 Right...lol. I got confused. Season 3 now. I heard next season is the last btw @Nmassie. Sucks 😓😢 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nmacie Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Yeah, it sucks. But we still have the books to look forward to. @FlyJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nmacie Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Who has seen the finale? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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