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24 minutes ago, scarlet said:

I understood the question, but I just nided her to stop dissecting trans related topics with the wrong motive at heart, and owning to fact she knows little or nothing about this people..  and  also  she's aware of the discrimination toward them in this community.  That's all. 

Lol I'm just laughing at your ignorance. What do you know about me to conclude I have a wrong motive at heart? And I know little or nothing about transgenders? Smh, you're just ignorant so I'll leave you to your conclusions 

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22 minutes ago, dreamgal said:

Lol I'm just laughing at your ignorance. What do you know about me to conclude I have a wrong motive at heart? And I know little or nothing about transgenders? Smh, you're just ignorant so I'll leave you to your conclusions 

 I careless what  you laugh at,  I made my point, that's all that matter to me now. If you knew more about them like you claimed, you wouldn't ask such a question, in the way you ask. But I guess I'm ignorant one here. So whatever.

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17 hours ago, scarlet said:

I understood the question, but I just nided her to stop dissecting trans related topics with the wrong motive at heart, and owning to fact she knows little or nothing about this people..  and  also  she's aware of the discrimination toward them in this community.  That's all. 

How do u know her motive?????🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄, apparently since u feel u know so much, u should have created a thread to SHOW it and fully air your perspective on the issue, cos she asked a simple question not a show of knowledge on trans issues, they say list,u want to explain🙄🙄🙄

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On 10/5/2017 at 8:58 PM, scarlet said:

 I careless what  you laugh at,  I made my point, that's all that matter to me now. If you knew more about them like you claimed, you wouldn't ask such a question, in the way you ask. But I guess I'm ignorant one here. So whatever.

I will say your points are  irrelevant and unnecessary here she asked a question instead of you to answer jejely.... 

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Tough questions. Honestly, I do not know what I will do. I guess it just depends on where our relationship is and where my head is at the time.

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On 10/4/2017 at 11:14 PM, scarlet said:

Apparently there are trans non binary people, and trans people who transition to another gender but still remain feminine or masculine, and this is the part were you're getting it all wrong. @dreamgal,  because your question is a trick question. one transitioning doesn't automatically make them want to be the opposite sex, you know, humans are complex and varied beings, ( we are looking at possibility here right? all thanks to your question) so what if?  the said trans  female girlfriend  transit to another gender which is supposedly male physically, but remain feminine innately because that's how she/ he feels? See ehn, stop complicating things, especially if you have no idea how these things work! just like having to see some " tomboys" who aren't interested in girls, despite their choice of appearance,  so like wise a trans person who was previously female but transit to another gender which is supposedly male physically, but remain feminine innately, depending on how they feel. the existence of trans people / non binary people prove a salient fact that gender is not that rigid, unbreakable two way street that a lot of people wish it was. 

 yes, I'd stay with her/he because I love them first, with or without transition and that has got nothing to do with my sexuality.

Clear enough. Referral term could be transexual other than transgender.

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On 10/5/2017 at 11:54 AM, scarlet said:

you did a terrible job at not stating specific. If I recall, your question was about a (she transitioning to a he), that was your key question ba? and I still insist you don't have the sightly idea how these things really work, even though you are very much part of queer community. ( no offense) You of all people should understand that there is a grave, if not distinctive different between sexuality and gender,  and both are  just one aspect of a  personality trait right? Just because she transitions and uses the he pronouns doesn't influenced their/ them sexuality, This is my point.  Trans males differs. There are trans male who are involved with men,  just as do trans male who are very much interested /involved with woman, same goes when you use the above  interchangeably,  not putting aside also trans men who could never accept the socialisation of women and trans male who are non binary,  all of this do not disenfranchised them on where they fall in the sexuality spectrum. 

That said,  so what about how the other person feels with the looks?  Is like you have grouse with transgender people oo. If you don't mind me asking  aren't  there cisgendered women with "manly" attributes? Or cisgendered men with feminine attributes? Or lesbian women with manly attributes? ( chi girl  who recently came out as lesbian is a typical example when you take a cursory look at lesbians who posses manly physique but identify as woman yet sexually involved with women ) does that hinders anything, Both physically and sexually? Don't they have partners who love and appreciate them? If yes, why can't that be seen among relationship involving trans persons and their partners?  is there any difference physically between these set of couples and couples with trans partner? you make It seem like these things are news, and are non- existent. But they aren't.  

I guess those who'd love them, and appreciate them despite all, would. Shikena.

 

Expository. It is normally said, sex concerns the body, while gender occurs in the mind. Gender is an innate sense of being male, female or other. Sex is genitalia, assigned at birth and refers to a persons biological status as female or male.

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Controversy is so 1962. Really boring.

Anyways, presently, I wouldn't stay on. I will always love herhim but I can't see myself staying because it will be selfish to himher, I hate penetration, I love boobs, I love soft smooth skin, I love every bit of femininity, the fingers and the way they move, the thin eye brows, the pouting lips, the fact that our bodies are the same , it makes it so easy for me to see our oneness, to see that she is really another me in another body, with another name, from another culture, bla bla bla.

There's so much I can see myself compromising in a relationship but gender change is definitely not one of them.

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